{"id":680,"date":"2011-05-23T22:19:18","date_gmt":"2011-05-23T21:19:18","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.adendavies.com\/?p=680"},"modified":"2011-05-23T22:19:18","modified_gmt":"2011-05-23T21:19:18","slug":"please-give-feedback","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/adendavies.co.uk\/?p=680","title":{"rendered":"Please Give Feedback"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/16.60.115.84\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/05\/feedback.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-689 alignleft\" title=\"Feedback loop\" src=\"http:\/\/16.60.115.84\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/05\/feedback.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"176\" height=\"150\" \/><\/a>How much data do you think a bank captures about you?\u00a0 A digital trail  is left by each and every interaction with an institution e.g. payment  over a branch counter, phone call to check the status of a mortgage  application or a cash withdrawal from an ATM but just how much?\u00a0 There&#8217;s  the obvious things such as transaction records (I took \u00a310 out of the  ATM which debited my account) but banks actually capture much, much more  information about your activity (where the ATM was located, which  organisation owned the ATM, whether you got your PIN right first time  etc.).\u00a0 A phone call generates even more information &#8216;This call may be  recorded for training purposes&#8217; is a familiar start to calls with most  service organisations but what is recorded?\u00a0 More importantly, what is  done with all this data?<\/p>\n<p>The vast majority of the captured data  is used by the organisation. Fed into huge CRM systems to track your  relationship, into data warehouses for all manner of analytic purposes  such as calculating your propensity to buy the hot new product, fuel for  anti fraud systems looking for strange patterns of behaviour.\u00a0 This  data is very valuable to an organisation. This data is also very  valuable to an individual. How many organisations feed back the value of  this data to their customers? How many feed back the behaviours this  data is showing? How many feed back the changes you could make if you  did things slightly differently? I think that data is very thin on the  ground&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>Here are a few examples of the value of feedback. From  one of my favourite forms of transport, trains. Take a look at this tube  information display from London Underground. Notice anything missing?<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/16.60.115.84\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/05\/Train-Describer-b.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-703\" title=\"Train Describer\" src=\"http:\/\/16.60.115.84\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/05\/Train-Describer-b.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"500\" height=\"333\" srcset=\"https:\/\/adendavies.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/05\/Train-Describer-b.jpg 500w, https:\/\/adendavies.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/05\/Train-Describer-b-300x200.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 500px) 100vw, 500px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Let&#8217;s see what it looks like with the missing piece added.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/16.60.115.84\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/05\/Train-Describer-a.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-704\" title=\"Train Describer a\" src=\"http:\/\/16.60.115.84\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/05\/Train-Describer-a.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"500\" height=\"333\" srcset=\"https:\/\/adendavies.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/05\/Train-Describer-a.jpg 500w, https:\/\/adendavies.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/05\/Train-Describer-a-300x200.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 500px) 100vw, 500px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>How does that piece  of extra feedback change the whole context of the display? Before it  just displayed the &#8216;what&#8217;. The &#8216;when&#8217; adds so much more value.<\/p>\n<p>Another  train based scenario. You are sat on a stationary train admiring a  beautiful hedgerow your mind wonders to why have you stopped? When will  we be moving again? And what is the impact on the time I will arrive at  my destination.\u00a0 Think how many times the train guard has given you all  those bits of information during one of their oh so eloquent Tannoy  announcements. Ever had to ask a guard for a bit more information?<\/p>\n<p>Final  feedback lesson from trains. Timeliness. On the more modern trains in  the East Midlands fleet that operate between Sheffield and London the  seat reservations are displayed on small digital screens above the seat.  At busy times (it seems) the reservation notices are not enabled when  you first get on the train. Only once the train is 10 minutes out of the  station do they get switched on causing a nightmare domino effect as  people move seats, other people end up standing and generally the  atmosphere on the train plummets to levels below the normal disdain  laden malaise to outright annoyance. Provide the feedback on time and  the problem would be avoided.<\/p>\n<p>So what about an example from banking. Here is a line showing charges are due to be applied to an account.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_685\" style=\"width: 451px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"http:\/\/16.60.115.84\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/05\/bank-charges.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-685\" class=\"size-full wp-image-685  \" title=\"Charges Feedback\" src=\"http:\/\/16.60.115.84\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/05\/bank-charges.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"441\" height=\"284\" srcset=\"https:\/\/adendavies.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/05\/bank-charges.jpg 612w, https:\/\/adendavies.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/05\/bank-charges-300x193.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 441px) 100vw, 441px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-685\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">What is missing from this information? The why...the what....the WTF?!<\/p><\/div>\n<p>Personal  Financial Management Tools such as Mint, Strands etc. Have been showing  users more about their money for several years now. Pretty graphs  showing your spending in a more usable way than a list of transactions.  Allowing customers to see if they made a change to the amount of coffee  they buy they could save an extra \u00a3x a year which could be used to pay  off their mortgage x years earlier. Banks in the UK seem to be finally  catching on. Lloyds recently launched their Money Manager platform.  Rumours suggest Barclays will do something similar at some point this  year.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_697\" style=\"width: 424px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"http:\/\/16.60.115.84\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/05\/money-manager1.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-697\" class=\"size-full wp-image-697 \" title=\"MoneyManager\" src=\"http:\/\/16.60.115.84\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/05\/money-manager1.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"414\" height=\"267\" srcset=\"https:\/\/adendavies.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/05\/money-manager1.jpg 592w, https:\/\/adendavies.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/05\/money-manager1-300x193.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 414px) 100vw, 414px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-697\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Pretty feedback graphs from Lloyds MoneyManager<\/p><\/div>\n<p>Natwest\u00a0have been sending out an annual statement. A paper based PFM if you  like that shows your annual expenditure highlighting where you spent the  most money e.g. Tesco. To me these things feels very much like stage  one. This is what you spend. This is where you spend it. This is what  will happen if you change this behaviour. The quicker stage one becomes  the normal functionality level for all banks the better. What interests  me is what comes next. Feedback on your financial behaviour is only one  element of a banking relationship and while it may be the most  important, what insights can be gleaned from all the other forms of  interaction?<\/p>\n<p>The telephone call. So much information related to  the act of dialing a beloved call center. Where you dialed from, the  menu options you chose, did you correctly enter your security details,  the length of time spent in a queue, the length of time on a call, the  number of times you were passed around departments, what those  departments were, who you spoke to, call reference numbers, the actions  of what you actually called up to do, the entries on the various systems  those actions incurred&#8230;oh and of course the audio of your call that  was recorded for training purposes. All that information is captured.  Next to none of it is fed back. You get the call length on your phone  bill and if the actions were transactional ones i.e. move some money,  you will see that in your online banking. But what is the value of  feedback from the rest?<\/p>\n<p>Relaying the menu options you chose  might make the route easier next time you call, who you actually spoke  with and your call reference number at hand online instead of scribbled  on the back of an envelope, the time it took you to complete your  transaction or the number of times you have called to try to get  something resolved, call information could be linked to  transactions\/complaints and show you the trail of activity and if you do  not remember what the operator said you can even listen back to your  call to jog your memory.<\/p>\n<p>Another area where I feel banks are  poor is around security, or rather feedback to customers about security.  Let me explain. Today I have no record of who and when someone logged  onto my internet banking or accessed my account via telephone banking or  wondered into a branch and tried to do something, even if it is me  doing the accessing. Now hopefully strangers attempting to access my  accounts does not occur too often but this data is most certainly  captured by a bank and if something strange is noticed let me know (and  not just by suspending my accounts). Why not play it back? Show  logon\/call\/visit times, show IP\/Mac Address of the device used to access  (in fact why don&#8217;t banks certify devices you might use to access  Internet banking? home laptop, work laptop, my mobile etc.). Modern  browsers can send location data as well. Why not ask if users would like  this information saved and shown to them in their logon activity  records? Any suspicious logons (or attempts) could be highlighted to the  customer as well as being flagged internally.\u00a0 Yes\u00a0 this might scare  some people and generate calls but it should also act as a reassuring  log to check.\u00a0 Data already captured, fed back to people for their  benefit. Feedback.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_698\" style=\"width: 447px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"http:\/\/16.60.115.84\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/05\/fb-logon-warning1.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-698\" class=\"size-full wp-image-698  \" title=\"Facebook Logon Warning\" src=\"http:\/\/16.60.115.84\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/05\/fb-logon-warning1.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"437\" height=\"250\" srcset=\"https:\/\/adendavies.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/05\/fb-logon-warning1.jpg 607w, https:\/\/adendavies.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/05\/fb-logon-warning1-300x171.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 437px) 100vw, 437px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-698\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">The Facebook attempted logon warning is an excellent piece of user security feedback.<\/p><\/div>\n<p>As\u00a0well as logon activity why not show a record of my actions undertaken  online. Clicked on this advert, transferred this money, canceled a  standing order,\u00a0 called the mortgage helpline, placed a complaint. Show  me what my relationship with your organisation looks like. Which leads  onto how my relationship with your organisation is perceived. The above  data is captured, stored in huge data warehouses and is fed into  analytic engines to work out things about you based on your activity.  Calculations are undertaken and you may get fed into a marketing  campaign based on not only your demographics but your interactions with  the bank. Scores may be calculated on your behaviours and applied to  your profile showing what your actions mean today and what they may mean  for the future.\u00a0 If you make a decision about me why not feed that back  to me. Show me how you worked it out and why. Honesty is the best  policy isn&#8217;t it?<\/p>\n<p>Applying for a product. The sales process of  some banking products is less than straight forward. The mortgage is an  especially complex process and one that is distinctly lacking in  feedback, especially online feedback. Moving house is stressful. The  complexity in arranging the mortgage adds to that. The amount of chasing  that needs to be done between solicitor and bank. Chasing up to find  out where the mortgage process is up to. Who or what is holding it up?  When will my money be available. Today a lot of that information can  only be gleaned by telephone calls or face to face meetings. Let us  switch tangents wildly and consider Dominos Pizzas. Today I can order a  pizza of my choice, personalised to the nth degree, I can see who is  making it, I can see when it goes in the oven and I can see when it is  ready for collection or where the delivery boy\u00a0is in relation to my  house. <a href=\"http:\/\/itunes.apple.com\/gb\/app\/dominos\/id385283734?mt=8\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">I can track a \u00a315 pizza to this extent<\/a>, all via my mobile, but I  can&#8217;t track a \u00a3250,000 mortgage to anything like this level. The  milestones\/progress of this application must be captured but is not fed  back. Something is wrong here.<\/p>\n<p>Ever since I first set eyes on  <a href=\"http:\/\/friendfeed.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Friendfeed<\/a> about 3\/4 years ago it was obvious to me that banking  relationships are very much like activity streams. Today the activity  feedback is almost entirely transactional, one way broadcast i.e.  marketing messages and customer service issues. This needs to change. So  much more happens and is captured but it is not fed back. It would seem  our enlightened government also agrees.<\/p>\n<p>A recent publication called <a href=\"http:\/\/www.cabinetoffice.gov.uk\/sites\/default\/files\/resources\/better-choices-better-deals.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Better Choices, Better Deals<\/a>, sets out &#8216;<em>To  put consumers in charge so that they are better able to get the best  deals for themselves individually and collectively as well as looking at  ways to empower the most vulnerable who may not otherwise benefit from  these exciting developments.<\/em>&#8216; On of the key themes of this piece is<em> &#8216;A shift away from a world in which certain businesses tightly control  the information they hold about consumers, towards one in which  individuals, acting alone or in groups, can use their data or feedback  for their own or mutual benefit.&#8217; <\/em>It will be interesting to see where this goes.<\/p>\n<p>We are also seeing tighter regulation on what kind of tracking companies can take online. The new <a href=\"http:\/\/blogs.wsj.com\/tech-europe\/2011\/05\/09\/u-k-publishes-e-u-cookie-directive-guidelines\/\">EU tracking cookie directives<\/a> are making companies think about how they track what customers do  online. Why not ask permission and show them what you are doing and why?  The recent Apple location tracking furor shows what happens when  companies are sneaky\/negligent but look at how many people then went and  visualised the data Apple captured. If they had asked and fed back  would their have been an in issue and would it just have been another  case of Apple doing something cool?<\/p>\n<p>This stance also aligns with the work by <a href=\"http:\/\/cyber.law.harvard.edu\/people\/dsearls\">Doc Searls<\/a> on <a href=\"http:\/\/blogs.law.harvard.edu\/vrm\/about\/\">Vendor Relationship Management<\/a> (VRM), Which aims to make customer data available to the people who  create and allow them to take it where ever they want and to use how  ever they want.<\/p>\n<p>Is this just some Utopian pipe dream? Or do we  need to see a shift in the way data is fed back to people? What  implications have I avoided\/glossed over? What compliance\/legal issues  have I willfully disregarded? What customer needs have I failed to take  into account? 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